't necessarily for a good cause, the kagans, robert kagan, fred kagan, kimberly kagan were prominently featured in your newspaper all the time, pushing the latest neo con war. now they we find out they're in bed with general petraeus, who reports to commander in chief barack obama. how did they get inside when they were from the other side idealogically? >> because, chris, four star generals have a lot of leeway when they're out halfway around the world. this arrangement wasn't well-known at the white house, at the white house. certainly if they knew they would have objected. the extraordinary acts that the kagans got. petraeus was able to do much of this just because he was the general. and managed to get what i understand his lawyers to sign off on the arrangement, which, you know, they got these desks, they got the security clearance, they traveled around the war zone that. >> got face time with him regularly. >> who are his people? is he part of the neo con crowd? is he one of them, those people that pushed this? let's put hit the way, heavily encouraged the war in iraq? or is he part of th